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tootall4178
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Posted - 10/28/2009 :  11:44:24 AM  Show Profile  Send tootall4178 an AOL message Send tootall4178 a Yahoo! Message Reply with Quote
I heard the seedings are done and four of the top five teams will be playing one another in the second round...!!!!

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Power Tower
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Posted - 10/28/2009 :  2:14:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It appears so that 3 of the "Top 5" ranked teams in WNY will be playing each other in the 2nd round! Coin tosses tonight and seeds tomorrow. It is what it is for now. Get in your varsity coach's ear and fight for what you believe should be done. The time to act is now. Best of luck in sectionals to all participants.

PT
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tootall4178
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Posted - 10/28/2009 :  2:41:43 PM  Show Profile  Send tootall4178 an AOL message  Send tootall4178 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I thought it was four of the top five...Clarence...Frontier...OP and Hamburg could all meet in the second round!!!!!!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Power Tower

It appears so that 3 of the "Top 5" ranked teams in WNY will be playing each other in the 2nd round! Coin tosses tonight and seeds tomorrow. It is what it is for now. Get in your varsity coach's ear and fight for what you believe should be done. The time to act is now. Best of luck in sectionals to all participants.

PT

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bcarroll
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Posted - 10/28/2009 :  3:17:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess Lancaster is an automatic L against Clarence in your book? they are pretty good. Don't count them out.

I proposed what I thought was a really good system last year to be proposed. It was greeted with, that's a pretty good idea... try to form a committee and see what can be done.

Good luck to whoever wants to change things. If we change our system, every sport will get to change theirs which is what ECIC will not want to do for every sport.

I personnaly like the way wrestling does their seedings. They have 16 seeds for every weight class and a point system!!! and they don't go by power points. They take into consideration who wins, who beats who, who places high in tournaments against each other adn common opponents, etc... I used this in my 'proposal' last year. I think it is the best one, but I honestly don't think anyone else wants to sit down for hours of work to see it get shelved somewhere b/c it's too progressive.

At least whoever is left has their full team. Hope that your team doesn't come down with the flu at the wrong time. I'd be willing to bet it hits someone this year...

bcarroll
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OP
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Posted - 10/28/2009 :  7:18:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
PROBABLY US!!

Yes Brian, The ECIC, NFL, and section 6 will shelve your proposal. It would meet alot of resistance for some good reasons, but mostly bad reasons.
That is why a federation is the best answer. A's in one division. B's in another. Only way to make seedings better. Otherwise we have to roll with this.
Bottom line. You gotta beat everyone to win anyways. And, since 2001 (when i took over at OP) The best two in A have met in the finals in 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006(debatable)., 2007, 2008. 2002 the two best met in semis. 2006 was pretty wide open. 2009 the two best teams will not be in the final in the polls opnion and many peoples personal opinion.
It's like being in the NFC and AFC.
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philzphan
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Posted - 10/28/2009 :  9:02:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seedings are done. They were sent to The News at 8:45 Wed. night; hopefully will be in Thursday's paper.
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Sweet Mobster
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Posted - 10/28/2009 :  11:25:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After seeing this year's rankings, the BCS doesn't seem so bad. OP at #4? Come on.
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tootall4178
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Posted - 10/29/2009 :  12:59:36 AM  Show Profile  Send tootall4178 an AOL message  Send tootall4178 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Not counting anyone out...just comparing the results of the seedings vs. the WNY poll...very interesting stuff...

quote:
Originally posted by bcarroll

I guess Lancaster is an automatic L against Clarence in your book? they are pretty good. Don't count them out.

I proposed what I thought was a really good system last year to be proposed. It was greeted with, that's a pretty good idea... try to form a committee and see what can be done.

Good luck to whoever wants to change things. If we change our system, every sport will get to change theirs which is what ECIC will not want to do for every sport.

I personnaly like the way wrestling does their seedings. They have 16 seeds for every weight class and a point system!!! and they don't go by power points. They take into consideration who wins, who beats who, who places high in tournaments against each other adn common opponents, etc... I used this in my 'proposal' last year. I think it is the best one, but I honestly don't think anyone else wants to sit down for hours of work to see it get shelved somewhere b/c it's too progressive.

At least whoever is left has their full team. Hope that your team doesn't come down with the flu at the wrong time. I'd be willing to bet it hits someone this year...

bcarroll

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shane cassell 25
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Posted - 10/29/2009 :  08:35:43 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What are the Brackets whos going to play who
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jet
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Posted - 10/29/2009 :  10:05:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Boy's volleyball schedule and seedings

SECTION VI TOURNAMENT
All matches 6 p.m. unless noted
CLASS A
Tuesday's prequarterfinals
14-Williamsville North at 3-Sweet Home
13-West Seneca West at 4-Orchard Park
12-Niagara Falls at 5-Frontier
11-Kenmore East at 6-Niagara-Wheatfield
10-North Tonawanda at 7-Kenmore West
9-Lancaster at 8-Clarence
Thursday's quarterfinals at higher seed
Clat/Lanc at 1-Hamburg
Front/NF vs. OP/WSW
KW/KE/ vs. SH/WN
KW/NT at 2-Lockport
Semifinals - Nov. 7 at Orchard Park
SH/WN/NW/KE vs. KW/NT/Lock, 4 p.m.
OP/WSW/Front/NF vs. Clar/Lanc/Hamb, 8 p.m.
Final: Nov. 10 at Hamburg, 6 p.m.

CLASS B
Tuesday's prequarterfinals
9-Williamsville South at 8-Amherst
13-Depew at 4-Cheektowaga
14-Williamsville East at 3-Grand Island
11-East Aurora at 6-Maryvale
12-West Seneca East at 5-Iroquois
10-Starpoint at 7-Holland
15-Lew-Port at 2-Lake Shore
Thursday's quarterfinals at higher seed
WS/Amh at 1-Eden
Iroq/WSE vs. Cheek/Dep
Maryvale/EA vs. GI/WE
Holl/Star vs. LS/L-P
Semifinals - Nov. 7 at Orchard Park
Mary/EA/GI/WE vs. LS/L-P/Holl/Star, 2 p.m. Iroq/WSE/Cheek/Dep vs. Amh/WS/Eden, 6 p.m. Final: Nov. 10 at Hamburg, 8 p.m.
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shane cassell 25
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Posted - 10/30/2009 :  8:41:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks pierce. When are you guys going to start running practices for club. I have to come home for a month. It starts the 10th of December and ends the 12th of January and I need to get a couple workouts in while im in town. So i was wondering if you guys will be practicing by then and wouldn't mind if I came in. Also if you want to see our team play we will be up there from January 21st till the 23rd we will be playing hilbert and a couple other teams for the area so. It might be cool to check it out and if you could spread the word.

My new E-mail is:[email protected]
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baller101
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Posted - 10/31/2009 :  4:07:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
are the section v brackets out yet for A and B and if so i do i see them
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volleyballer9
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Posted - 10/31/2009 :  10:27:27 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
they have been out since thursday, i saw them but don't remember much. i do know that Rush is #1 and Penfield is #2. For B, 1. Victor, 2. North Rose 3. Freddie Thomas 4. Midlakes
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hsvb
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Posted - 11/01/2009 :  9:50:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by baller101

are the section v brackets out yet for A and B and if so i do i see them


Here are the Section V brackets....
http://www.victorboysvolleyball.net/volleyball-news/standings

Edited by - hsvb on 11/01/2009 9:51:30 PM
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curious
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  4:42:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hsvb

quote:
Originally posted by baller101

are the section v brackets out yet for A and B and if so i do i see them


Here are the Section V brackets....
http://www.victorboysvolleyball.net/volleyball-news/standings


Please get rid of the Percentage column - has nothing to do with seedings last I knew and is just confusing.
Here is what I have for Section V point values (which seem to match the seeding in the bracket):
Sec V rating
1 Rush-Henrietta | 3.789
2 Penfield | 3.706
3 East | 3.563
4 McQuaid | 3.375
5 Irondequoit | 2.444
6 Fairport | 1.500
7 Spencerport | 1.444
8 Hilton | 0.150
9 Webster | -0.167
10 Brockport | -1.222
11 Churchville-Chili | -1.800
12 Gates-Chili | -2.688
13 Edison Tech | -3.333
14 Canandaigua | -4.813
15 Greece | -5.133
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section5
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  8:55:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Class B 1/4s Wednesday played at higher seed

1 Victor vs 8 Brighton
4 Midlakes vs 5 Jefferson
3 Freddie Thomas vs 11 Eastridge
2 North Rose Wolcott vs 7 Wayne

Class B Semis
Saturday at Webster Schreoder
1 Victor vs 4 Midlakes
2 North Rose Wolcott vs 11 Eastridge

Edited by - section5 on 11/04/2009 11:16:08 PM
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section5
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  9:02:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Class A 1/4s
Wednesday

1 RH vs 9 Webster
4 McQuaid vs 5 Irondequoit
6 Fairport vs 14 Canadaigua
2 Penfield vs 10 Brockport

Played at the higher seed.

Class A Semis
Saturday-Webster Schroeder

1 RH vs 4 McQuaid
2 Penfield vs 6 Fairport

Edited by - section5 on 11/04/2009 11:17:14 PM
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volleyballdaddy
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Posted - 11/03/2009 :  11:47:46 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is it true that the Class B finals are on Tuesday 11/10 and that Class A finals are on Wednesday 11/11? Aren't they usually on the same night?
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hsvb
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Posted - 11/03/2009 :  1:48:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by volleyballdaddy

Is it true that the Class B finals are on Tuesday 11/10 and that Class A finals are on Wednesday 11/11? Aren't they usually on the same night?


Veterans Day is on Wed and I believe schools will be closed.
I figure both Class A and B will be on Tues. Q, any confirmation in this regard?
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section5
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Posted - 11/03/2009 :  3:58:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Finals are on same day 11/10.
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tootall4178
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Posted - 11/04/2009 :  2:20:24 PM  Show Profile  Send tootall4178 an AOL message  Send tootall4178 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
2008 is incorrect...my boys were not the second best team...Hamburg was better than us...heck, Lancaster beat us that year...twice!

quote:
Originally posted by OP

PROBABLY US!!

Yes Brian, The ECIC, NFL, and section 6 will shelve your proposal. It would meet alot of resistance for some good reasons, but mostly bad reasons.
That is why a federation is the best answer. A's in one division. B's in another. Only way to make seedings better. Otherwise we have to roll with this.
Bottom line. You gotta beat everyone to win anyways. And, since 2001 (when i took over at OP) The best two in A have met in the finals in 2001, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006(debatable)., 2007, 2008. 2002 the two best met in semis. 2006 was pretty wide open. 2009 the two best teams will not be in the final in the polls opnion and many peoples personal opinion.
It's like being in the NFC and AFC.


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dan6141982
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Posted - 11/04/2009 :  9:58:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like brackets are all set for Saturday except for the Midlakes games..

Midlakes beat SOTA 3-0 (25 - 8, 25 - 13, 25 - 22) and Jefferson 3-0 (Don't have scores).
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123Pjvball
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Posted - 11/05/2009 :  08:54:36 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mcquaid Vs. Rush
Penfield Vs. Fairport
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vballier
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Posted - 11/05/2009 :  12:11:43 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think this could be the best Semi match-up's I've seen in a long while. I expect two well played battles on Saturday.
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Q
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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  08:15:46 AM  Show Profile  Send Q an AOL message  Reply with Quote
I believe Finals are on Tuesday night@ Webster Schroeder

Edited by - Q on 11/07/2009 08:16:44 AM
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Aged
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Posted - 11/07/2009 :  11:29:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Penfield over Fairport in 3.
McQuaid over RH in 4.
Is this the 5th year out of the last 6 that Penfield has played McQuaid in the finals?
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